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Emcee, BBoy & Artist from Sydney who has been in the scene for more than 30 years. Member of Brethren
For Me I get a rush out of doing the big wall, that’s what I’ve been about for a long time. It’s a case that I can’t not do it. The term I would probably use is more addiction. Some people do it for like an adrenaline rush. Some people do it because it’s rebellious. Some people do it to be like creative. Some people do it because it’s like part of a sub culture that they want to be involved with. And then there’s like a million grey areas in between that.
I can’t believe it’s still a debate whether this is an art form or not, you know. Just because we use spray paint. I mean I can use other forms, other mediums. Like this is the one that I prefer to use. But we like to do a lot of stuff. We find that the best way to have a positive impact is to lead by example.
It’s not something that we’ve consciously set out to do. But like the Marrickville group for example, it actually just started out of a necessity for us to practice. So it was just like a selfish beginning. We were like we’ve got to get together and practice on the regular because we’re getting unfit. Then it became like a point of contact for the general public with the Hip Hop community. And also because we’re a bit older and we’ve been through bits and pieces of stuff it’s put us in a position where we’re in contact with the younger Hip Hop heads.
Yeah we can just talk to them about things and life. We’ve had some kids that have attempted suicide or whatever and they might not be able to talk to their parents about it. But they can talk to us because they know us. They know that we’re fairly sane. Because we’re involved in the community sector in general we can refer them to the right direction or different things like that. And also we will keep the information to ourselves. We won’t just be blabbing it out.
I really dig doing the workshops because like I’m mixing with a lot of younger artists that are really cool and their work influences me and you have a good time and we’d like to try and do a lot of stuff. We find that the best way to have a positive impact is to lead by example
When we were first signed they were like, the record company was saying to us oh should we market you as American and yo yo and all that sort of stuff. Or should we make you real ocker Aussie. And I said well we’re neither we’re just us.
The Hop Hop scene in Australia, it’s quite hard to scratch a living out of it. What I was saying earlier about artists being treated seriously overseas is something that has made me think maybe I should move overseas and pursue it over there. But I’m Australian, I love it here so I couldn’t do that. But still scratching for pennies, still hustling you know, selling ourselves short to do jobs. Like I’m doing paintings for a couple of hundred bucks, sometimes just because I need to do em. Whereas if I was thinking about them quite seriously it would have been worth a couple of thousand dollars.
Any artist has to reflect what’s inside them, you know what I mean. Whether they be Muslim or Jew or Hindu or whatever, you know. And of course I’m going to recollect what I believe to be the truth.
People don’t even know that there’s a Hip Hop scene in Australia. And even more so they don’t even know that there’s an underground Christians Hip Hop scene as well. I think everyone considers us to be like Flanders or something off the Simpsons. But it’s not necessarily the case. We’re still underground Hip Hop heads you know. It’s just that we have our faith, doesn’t make us any wacko or any better you know. We still have to prove ourself. But most of us are sort of like we don’t separate ourselves from the rest of the world and we just have our world. We’re involved in everything that happens as well.
We did a church actually, up in Enmore man. Enmore Anglican. I think its Enmore Anglican Church. We did like a big thing, about as long as the whole building man. I’m a bit of a closet theologian you know. I really get into scriptural stuff, especially like Old Testament stuff. And so I just, it’s one of my pet things, so I thought I’ll put in as much as I can. Because it’s not often that I get a chance to, paint a church or whatever.
I’m not into clichés no matter what they are. If it’s Hip Hop cliché and I’m walking around going yo yo, you know what I mean, I’m like a Christian walking around with a gigantic King James version of the bible wearing a suit looking like I’m one of the Flanders children, you know. I think its wack on either thing. But I mean if you’re that then it’s cool, you know. If you’re not putting it on. But if you front whatever, then I think that’s wacky.
Man, I have no idea, I didn’t even think I’d be doing it this long. When I was 13 I thought yeah maybe when I’m 18 I will sort of give up. And now it’s way past that. But it’s just one of those things. I just hope that I don’t end up like one of those Elvis fans that’s sitting there with bell buckle and a big pompadour and hasn’t moved on from that era.


“Australia has one of the oldest histories in wall painting – with the indigenous Australians having work dating back many thousands of years and from this we learn much of their history. In fact archeologists have learned a great deal by study of a country’s Graffiti – I wonder what their conclusion would be if they discovered us (the work of Australian Graffiti Artists) thousands years down the track?” – Mistery, 2008.